Talk:T.J.
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Decide what to name this page: T.J. or T.J. Hummer
Our Discord is already killing it - we began a complicated discussion about whether T.J.'s page should be named as such, or if it should go by the extension T.J. Hummer, to accommodate a surname given to him in an obscure source - the one in question being Issue 31 (October 2010) of The Official Magazine, as pictured on the right. A verdict is difficult to rule because of the unique circumstances, and how they interact with our canon policy.
Per the canon policy, we do not assume a consistent Cars canon across all forms of media, and as a result, we treat all sources equally in terms of their verifiability. So, the decision to rename this page to "T.J. Hummer" effectively becomes a question of whether this one magazine source is "trustable" enough to affect the page so greatly, when it is largely alone compared to an overwhelming majority of other sources that notably omit it. This case is particularly difficult because the added surname of Hummer does not inherently contradict the alternative (as in something like Davey Apex vs Dave Alternators), it merely extends it.
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I am proposing that we keep the page name as T.J. as a result of it appearing most commonly across various sources. If we're treating all sources equally, we need to establish a way to prevent potential errors from being too destructive - otherwise, if a magazine were to come out tomorrow hypothetically calling Claude Scruggs as Claude Scruggs Axler, for instance, we don't want to have to apply the same reasoning there.
Very curious to hear everyone's input. The decision made here will likely set a precedent, and will also immediately impact pages such as Brian Park Motors as well.
Proposer: User:RodRedlineM1/sig
Deadline: Thursday, September 28, 2023, 23:59 GMT
Result: COMPROMISE - We have decided that the most common name should take precedence when deciding article titles.
Support
- User:RodRedlineM1/sig - Per proposal.
- Carslikesninjago (talk) fully agree
- Mightyman64 (talk) - I say we should keep the page how it is.
Oppose
Discussion
So, I am very neutral on this decision, I am the one who originally moved T.J. Hummer to T.J., but then brought up moving it back to "T.J. Hummer" since it includes more in the name and reaches more of an audience, featuring both names in one (as it just being an extension of his current page name). And I had not known the Hummer title was used in several magazines. I hope this little note helps someone decide on this, I'm fine with how it ends either way honestly. ChickenChaff (talk) 15:39 September 23, 2023 UTC